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Title: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: pikebuster on October 15, 2017, 10:13:34 PM

It’s not something you come across every day, but it’s probably more common than you may think in the Canadian wilderness.
YouTuber Dan Nystedt recently posted drone footage of an incredible confrontation between two natural enemies â€" a wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=akGWOpcWfrQ
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: puckster_guy on October 16, 2017, 08:38:47 AM
 Wow. Interesting how that worked out. That Wolf moving along the tracks looked like a ghost. On another note I have reservations about using drones to locate Moose during a hunt. It can greatly increase your chances of finding and killing a Moose. It can easily decimate a population if everybody got a moose. It would also IMO take the "sport" out of the hunt.
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Fort Wisers on October 16, 2017, 10:04:20 AM
I agree with you on that one @puckster_guy
Pretty amazing footage....
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Hodgey1 on October 16, 2017, 12:42:32 PM
that video was crazy. I would have never thought a wolf would attack a grown moose, let alone a grown moose in the water. The softy side of me was rooting for the moose!
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Balsams on October 16, 2017, 10:04:45 PM
I think it was not over. Appeared the drone startled the wolf into turning back for shore. Ya I was pulling for the moose too. Is it me or was there 2 wolves on the tracks?
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Hodgey1 on October 17, 2017, 12:12:36 PM
i'm pretty sure there where 2.
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Fort Wisers on October 17, 2017, 01:37:16 PM
I saw 2 on the tracks also
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: SgtCrabby on October 17, 2017, 11:35:14 PM
Yep, two wolf's were on the tracks,  perfect color blend into the road bed.
I too was rooting for the moose, and get into deep water, might have drowned the wolf.

Also not a fan of using drones for hunting purposes. 
OK in wildlife management and documentaries.
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: RHYBAK on October 18, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Where did the drone / hunting comments come from?
Where ? If anywhere was it ever mentioned that the drone was being used for hunting purposes?
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: puckster_guy on October 19, 2017, 12:04:33 PM
Quote from: RHYBAK on October 18, 2017, 01:01:25 PM
Where did the drone / hunting comments come from?
Where ? If anywhere was it ever mentioned that the drone was being used for hunting purposes?
That was my conjecture Rye, it looks like fall there. I took the possibility that the drone was looking for moose either in a hunt or to prepare for one. So I threw im my 2 cents worth.
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: RHYBAK on October 19, 2017, 02:11:11 PM
you know what   ASSUME  ing does
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: puckster_guy on October 19, 2017, 04:53:50 PM
Quote from: RHYBAK on October 19, 2017, 02:11:11 PM
you know what   ASSUME  ing does

Oh ya I know. I didn't "assume" anything. I saw a posibility that a drone can be used for hunting and extrpolated an opinion on the possibility of using said device on a hunting trip. I don't know if there are any rules for or against it. Nor do I care since I don't hunt big game. However the opinion expressed was mine alone bro.
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Jow on October 23, 2017, 06:53:23 PM
Came up on a fresh moose kill on sled trail in northern Ontario 8 years ago while snowmobiling. Pretty sure we scared off the wolves from the noise of our sleds. It was steaming of sweat from running. The tounge nose and rear end had been chewed out and blood every where. Pretty creepy thing to see. Wolf tracks every where around it.
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Hodgey1 on October 25, 2017, 07:13:47 AM
I love the environment and all things nature, the wolf gets on my nerves though. I know. I know, they need to eat too. I don't have to like  >:(
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: morganjp on November 05, 2017, 01:03:29 PM
Hi All,
I don't get on this site as much as I should. Just happened to check it out today. I just watched the moose/wolf encounter video. It was very luck to get this on camera.
RHYBAK is correct in his post....DON,T ASSUME...."nothing was mentioned about using drone for hunting purposes." I am a hunter and have been many places in US, Canada, Africa, South America, New Zealand etc. I'm just stating a fact that I know what HUNTING IS about...
I would also agree that drones should not be used for scouting purposes for hunting if that were the case in this instance; which I don't think it was.. Fair chase is just that;... FAIR CHASE...
The video should have been looked at and appreciated for what it was.....NATURE.....
It's amazing what one added sentence about ones beliefs placed on this site can muster up....Guess we all should leave the opinions to the FISHING part of this forum.
We all must think about what we are posting to what ever forum that MANY have access too. ....You can Think it, but don't have to state it. I'm sure PUCKSTER_GUY did this unintentionally....but it should make us all think about what we say that a large groups of people have access too....
...... Oh, and for you fisherman...which I assume all on this post are.....DON'T"USE DEPTH/FISH FINDERS anymore. Its like a water drone.??????....
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: pike mike on November 16, 2017, 02:37:52 PM
WOW  …to Morganjp , Rhybak  , Puckster_ guy and all who read this post and its eventual editorial twist . It amazes me how politically correct society has become and how quick we are to point out what , in our opinion is the failings of others  . Being a supporter of a number of environmental watchdog groups I can understand Pucksters concerns and viewpoints but see that there was no reference to hunting mentioned  . Not sure it required a political correction but that is one’s right in society today . As to cheering for predator or prey  , I was just excited watching nature play out in its complete and utter rawness not sure how this true drama would end . One last point : Neither a human hunter or human fisherman (or fisherperson) truly “knows what HUNTING IS “ ,  only 1 being in this discussion truly “knows what HUNTING IS “ and that would be the wolf  LOL   
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Fort Wisers on November 16, 2017, 04:22:40 PM
Great post @pike mike
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: BryanKale on November 24, 2017, 09:37:47 AM
Quote from: Hodgey1 on October 25, 2017, 07:13:47 AM
I love the environment and all things nature, the wolf gets on my nerves though. I know. I know, they need to eat too. I don't have to like  >:(

Same here.  :-\
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Captain Hali on November 24, 2017, 11:35:19 AM
Pike Mike, to the wolf, what we call " hunting " is purely the instinctual  pursuit and killing of game as a means of survival. Repeated failure is not an option as this spells certain death.This video shows just what risk the wolf was willing to take pursuing and animal 8 to 10 times it's own weight in an unusual element. Great video of nature at work.
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: BryanKale on November 28, 2017, 09:17:24 PM
Quote from: Captain Hali on November 24, 2017, 11:35:19 AMThis video shows just what risk the wolf was willing to take pursuing and animal 8 to 10 times it's own weight in an unusual element. Great video of nature at work.

In such case, that's what we would call survival of the fittest.



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Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: limacharley on November 29, 2017, 02:52:12 PM
I had a bull, a cow and a calf behind my house last weekend. My StealthCam also caught an 8 point buck. No wolves though.

Here's a thought to consider: if we can use a GPS/sonar to find fish, why cant we use a drone to find game?  Go,...
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Captain Hali on November 29, 2017, 04:06:57 PM
If we could, would you still consider it " fair chase " ???
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: limacharley on December 01, 2017, 09:56:15 AM
Quote from: Captain Hali on November 29, 2017, 04:06:57 PM
If we could, would you still consider it " fair chase " ???

Is it fair to use electronics to find fish?
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: puckster_guy on December 01, 2017, 02:52:01 PM
After some thought, LC YES. All the electronics do is locate fish. the rest is up to the fish. Y can put anything across their nose. Till they actually bite you ain't getting any. If you were down there with a net or spear etc. and cleanning out the lake then that would be different. After all you don't wait for a moose to bite your bait you shoot it from any distance possible. In that, at least to me is the diff.....Now argue amongst yourselves.
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Captain Hali on December 01, 2017, 03:30:27 PM
LC, there is a big difference as to what you can see with sonar and a drone. When that fish that's 22 feet deep swims out of the sonar's cone it disappears, and you have no idea where it went. The drone has a much wider field of vision, and you can maneuver the drone to follow your target, and possibly intercept it for a shot. With today's technology in weapons, optics, and ballistics, it is possible to take down an animal up to 1000 yds., and beyond. That in itself opens another question of ethicality, even though there are no laws regulating up to what distance one can attempt a shot. What say you.........     
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: limacharley on December 01, 2017, 03:42:18 PM
Many people on here wouldn't dare drop a line if the sonar didn't indicate there were fish below so you're argument doesn't hold water.
The sonar finds the fish just like the drone finds the game.

I don't think there's much of a difference between using electronics (technology) to fish and using technology to hunt. I'm not agreeing to hunting with a drone, i'm just saying the difference is minuscule. It's splitting hairs.

What did the old dogs say when the sonar came out in the 70's?....oh that's going to ruin fishing. Did it? You may be able to find a moose with a drone, doesn't mean you're going to be in a position to shoot it.
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: puckster_guy on December 01, 2017, 05:58:08 PM
I dunno about minuscule. I sonar still can't make fish bite. Your working with bait and lures trying to elicit a reaction either hunger or anger to get it to hit the lure. Except for bear hunting you do not bait animals to come to you, your chasing. If a drone tells you where to look as opposed to you hanging near their home waiting or looking for him. The animal would have no chance of escape as a fish deciding to not bite.
Title: Re: Wolf attacking a moose in Northern Ontario.
Post by: Canez on January 15, 2018, 06:09:29 AM
Great footage. Nice use of a drone too!