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Title: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: T-Bone on February 17, 2020, 10:30:50 AM
Found the 'old' link listing the lots that are for sale over on McLachlin and near Red Pine, but it's now a 404 - - Not Found.

Anyone know where I get more info on these lots via web? Yeah...I know...we'll talk to Len when we're up in May enjoying some of those frothy, creamy, delicious amber-colored beverages at the Temrose, but until then I'd like to dig around a bit.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: puckster_guy on February 17, 2020, 11:41:48 AM
Come see me at camp T-Bone this spring I can give you a good run down of what's happening. Lots of lots for sale on the south side of the bay averaging about 75k completely wooded lots. North side totally sold out now plus a few lots on the east side of the bridge over the chutes. No lots sold on the south side so you can pick and choose, some with great views looking north up MacLauglin lake.
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: Jay Thomas on February 17, 2020, 01:19:38 PM
Quote from: puckster_guy on February 17, 2020, 11:41:48 AMLots of lots for sale on the south side of the bay averaging about 75k completely wooded lots. North side totally sold out now plus a few lots on the east side of the bridge over the chutes. No lots sold on the south side so you can pick and choose, some with great views looking north up MacLauglin lake.

Hi Puckster,

"No lots sold on the south side". Are there negative issues (e.g. rugged water access, springtime flooding, uneven terrain, etc) with the lots for sale on the south side - consequently no lots sold. If so, can you provide some perspective please.

Jay
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: puckster_guy on February 17, 2020, 01:56:16 PM
Sure thing, Jay. The north side was populated first some 15 yrs ago. About 7 yrs ago when I bought my lot Len only showed my available lots on the north side as it was already set up. People living there already. Road in good shape all lots surveyed etc. I had my choice of about 7 lots when I chose mine. I don't think the south side was totally surveyed yet nor the road completed at that time. So it was prob easier to sell  one side then concentrate on the other when all lots were sold. All lots on the south side are now road access however due to lack of use it's not in great shape. That will change when folk start moving in and improving that set of lots. There's nothing wrong with that side as the lots are all high and dry about 3 acres each with minimum 180 feet waterfront, some more depending on the shape of the lots. The one at the tip of the point is the most expensive and the biggest lot. Asking 250k for that one prob 5 acres, maybe they're looking to attract a resort. I hope not. Honestly if I had the bread I'd buy most of the western lots and keep them green just to preserve the view I have a natural unspoiled waterline. However it is what it is. Check them out well worth the investment even if you only put a trailer on the lot for about 100k you have a spot in paradise. I just hope it stays that way. The lots are completely off grid with the closest hydro pole some 30km down Maniwaki. I like it just the way it is.
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: puckster_guy on February 17, 2020, 02:23:20 PM
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(https://i.postimg.cc/vHSS6LBb/5776435-16470724-1-jpg-kipawa-lots.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNKTktKD)
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: Jay Thomas on February 17, 2020, 03:29:38 PM
Thanks very much Puckster for providing that information. Can't blame you one bit for hoping to keep it pristine.

Jay
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: T-Bone on February 17, 2020, 04:55:33 PM
Thanks Puck...was looking for that map of the layout...and it's what I needed to know. That area will be a little town of it's own someday, albeit part-time residents in most cases. All of those lots filled-up with private camps is a load of people and really not the experience I would want to...experience. Probably a good idea to have some neighbors way out in the bush like that though.

Still good info to have. Given the right price and situation I guess it could work. And who knows? Maybe Len will sell me in May..  :D
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: limacharley on February 17, 2020, 06:38:04 PM
Just my opinion but at that asking price they will stay unsold.
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: puckster_guy on February 17, 2020, 08:18:43 PM
They are not exactly selling like hot cakes however compared to Ontario they are a huge bargain. That's why I'm there.Tamagmi water access lots were over 200k. Everywhere I looked in Ontario there were no decent drive to lots for less then 200k. I searched everywhere including North of Sudbury. Some nice Georgian Bay lots near Kilarney were around 150k But water access which I wanted no part of. So relative to Ontario lots for 65 to 75 is a bargain. Being completely wooded you'll spend some 10 to 15k to cut a driveway in and clear an acre close to shore. Even at that there are few lots for sale on Kipawa. Totally up to the individual if it's worth it or not. I'll leave it at that you guys decide if it's worth it or not. I'm some 45 minutes from temis.
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: smitty55 on February 17, 2020, 08:40:17 PM
Hey T-Bone, have you considered approaching Miwapanee Lodge to see if they'd be willing to sell their outpost camp in Dead Bear Bay? I don't know if they own or lease that land but for me it would be the perfect place to have a camp. I really prefer the hub area myself as you have any direction you want to travel available.
Cheers
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: T-Bone on February 18, 2020, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: smitty55 on February 17, 2020, 08:40:17 PM
Hey T-Bone, have you considered approaching Miwapanee Lodge to see if they'd be willing to sell their outpost camp in Dead Bear Bay?

Not sure if it's for sale; the one they have on Grindstone is for sale, but I wouldn't want that cabin. And to be honest, the one in DBB is really more than I'm looking for. It's a nice cabin and GREAT location (stayed in it 2014 or so), but way bigger than I'd want or need.

Now...that little one on Sunnyside Depot...that's what I really want...  ;)

Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: Hodgey1 on February 18, 2020, 02:56:49 PM
Quote from: T-Bone on February 18, 2020, 12:41:51 PM
the one in DBB is really more than I'm looking for. It's a nice cabin and GREAT location (stayed in it 2014 or so), but way bigger than I'd want or need.

Wouldn't you need room for guests?  ??? 8)  ;) Just sayin'
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: limacharley on February 18, 2020, 03:16:45 PM
40k in 2012 was a good price but there's no way inflation in 7 years should boost them to 70k.
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: puckster_guy on February 18, 2020, 03:36:53 PM
I agree Luc, It's just corp greed. I paid 41k for mine. Commonwealth had this land since the late 1800's. I wonder what they paid for it. It was used as a stables area for their quarter horses. I even found a couple of rusty horseshoes when I dug the foundation for the camp.
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: Hodgey1 on February 18, 2020, 06:24:19 PM
This place is still for sale, I think it was posted last fall. $175k CAD $132K USD

https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/21026965/1-lac-grindstone-les-lacs-du-témiscamingue

Here is another. Listed at $179K CAD

https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/21005323/536-ch-de-kipawa-kipawa
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: Hodgey1 on February 18, 2020, 06:34:27 PM
$80K CAD at Lac Grindstone

https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/20904011/1000-lac-grindstone-les-lacs-du-témiscamingue
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: T-Bone on February 18, 2020, 07:34:46 PM
Got your attention, eh Hodgey? You pick which one you like best. We'll split it.  ;)
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: Greg on February 19, 2020, 02:26:41 PM
Hodgey, Tbone - I'm in!!!  Would love to buy a lot and start from scratch, but just not sure I have the energy.

Greg
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: puckster_guy on February 19, 2020, 03:31:43 PM
Quote from: Greg on February 19, 2020, 02:26:41 PM
Hodgey, Tbone - I'm in!!!  Would love to buy a lot and start from scratch, but just not sure I have the energy.

Greg
Your right. It's a lot of work and money. It feels like it never ends. But anyway lots of beer and fishing trips between jobs.
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: limacharley on February 20, 2020, 07:52:01 AM
Fractional ownership could work for some people.
Depends on the time off (profession) you have and your families' support.

I know a lot people who have fish camps/hunt camps that work that way.
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: limacharley on February 20, 2020, 07:55:54 AM
Quote from: Hodgey1 on February 18, 2020, 06:24:19 PM
This place is still for sale, I think it was posted last fall. $175k CAD $132K USD

https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/21026965/1-lac-grindstone-les-lacs-du-témiscamingue

This is the place from last year where they were asking $215k
It looks really nice but that's still a lot of coin at $175k
Fractional ownership....
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: puckster_guy on February 20, 2020, 10:13:32 AM
 To me it's simple  and comes down to how badly do you want it? My life has been a whirlwind of working a family grocery business, driving trucks and finally the last 20 yrs in an airplane factory. Mostly sucking up all the overtime I could get working 6&7 days a week while my ex stayed home with the kids. This only covered day to day bills, my hockey once a week the kids sports and activities and a boat in a marina on Georgian Bay. Which to me was my cottage lol. The whole time dreaming of owning a cottage in the Muskokas. Well a nasty layoff in 2002 coincided with a separation from my ex and a small settlement from selling off our house. An equitable 75-25% split of assets I worked so hard for. Picked myself up and dusted off. When I got back to work I used what bread I had plus some family money to buy a house which I kept for a few years as the kids wanted to live with me. Once they moved out to start their own lives the cottage dream came back to haunt me. I still had my boat on Georgian Bay. This whole time I was living in the Barrie area and my new girl friend wanted to move back to Toronto. Which turned out to be a blessing. Long story short. Sold house at a small profit, Searched all over Ontario for an affordable lot as I couldn't afford a place with a structure on it and found nothing for less then $200k. With about a $100k in my pocket from selling the house and setting up in a cheap condo in a 50 yr old building in T.O. A little bird whispered in my ear to check out Temiscaming the place I used to hunt and fish in many, many yrs ago. I found Red Pine, fell in Love and set up with a 10 yr old 5th wheel camper/trailer for $70-80K. This was a 5 hour drive with a very rough road at the end. Much further then I ever wanted to go. With what little I had left plus some inheritance money I built my camp. I have now reached the end of my tether and an tired and fed up and am gonna coast into oblivion at my camp on Kipawa. You guys know how I built the lot up. Now that I'm retired my routine is 2 weeks north and 2 weeks south all summer long. BTW I'm meeting LC at my camp this weekend as I'm gonna be there for a week. SO> HOW BADLY DO YOU WANT IT????
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: Brian on February 23, 2020, 07:51:18 PM
Cabin for sale. Alwaki lodge outpost. Quebec lease since 1971. For info contact Brian Douglas at
Briandouglas@alwakilodge.com
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: smitty55 on February 23, 2020, 11:22:28 PM
Quote from: Brian on February 23, 2020, 07:51:18 PM
Cabin for sale. Alwaki lodge outpost. Quebec lease since 1971. For info contact Brian Douglas at
Briandouglas@alwakilodge.com

Wow, just think Brian no more runs up Turtle Chute anymore. Between that and maintaining the outpost cottage that's a pile of time and work. Good luck with the sale. Just curious how much property comes with the lease? Cheers
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: Greg on February 24, 2020, 02:54:51 PM
Wow.  Brian - you have put so much into that cabin - and what a location.   

Have to say I'm surprised to read this.  Is it listed anywhere or just private word of mouth for now?

I'm down south enjoying some sun - I have some lottery tickets in my wallet which I will check next week - if I win (some big money) - you will be in my top 10 call list.

Cheers..

Greg (136 days I think)
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: Brian on February 27, 2020, 08:54:55 PM
Just word of mouth so far .  I am in Florida until the end on March. We will start to advertise the cabin in May when we can show it.
Title: Re: Looking for Info on Lots for Sales - - Lac McLachlin
Post by: Greg on February 28, 2020, 12:05:05 PM
I took some decent pictures when I stopped in their last July after you told me about all the new work you put into it and our group was debating trying it out a future year - let me know if you would like those and I can send them to you.

We head home from Mexico tomorrow so can send them as early as Sunday.

Greg