After reading a few different posts here,I have a stupid question.
One thread mentioned using jig heads and just jigging below the boat with a beer in one hand and his rod in the other.
Another thread mention trolling with jig heads.
I'm used to casting the jig as far as possible,letting it settle on the bottom,then retrieving it back to the boat in a steady jigging fashion.
Does nobody else do that?
I personally would never think of trolling with a jig head.
When you are on fish, vertical jigging produces good numbers. Drop it till it hits bottom, tighten the lie, then bang that jig head up and down on the bottom and you'll nail em. When the fish are more selective the cast and retreive works well. I have also found that putting on a slip weight with about 2 - 3ft of leader behind a barrel swivel works great with just a red hook and a leech for the cast and retreive method.
Don't let Marco BS you...he's chucking that jig head out casting it most of the time. It's only when 'ol T-Bone starts nailing them vertically that he switches over to that. ;)
In all honesty...we do whatever works at that moment, but I can never recall any of us 'trolling' a jig. Maybe drifting a jig right on bottom, or casting/retrieving, but not trolling.
"Snap jigging" is a method by which you are moving/trolling and pulling the jig aggressively up-n-down as you cover an area that is holding fish. Mostly used on shallower flats....<10 fow. We've tried this in a limited manner...can't recall the results so it must not have been that great.
7 weeks from right now we'll be crossing that Peace Bridge and heading toward St. Catherines, Ontario via the QEW. Nice.
I HAVE TROLLED WITH 1/8 OZ JIG AND WHITE MR TWISTER WITH GOOD RESULTS
I like casting jigs. Its what I do back home because 9 times out of 10 I'm on the shore. ( I wish I had a boat).
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Well General, the small amount of time I use a jig now, I'm usually vertical jigging. I'll make a cast now and then but after I loose a few in the rocks, I figure that's enough of that and just vertical it. I like to use Cabelas Wobble jigs or a small Road Runner and most of the time I'll put a half of crawler on it. My first 3-4 Kipawa trips I couldn't catch a walleye vertical jigging. I don't know if T-Bone remembers but I picked his brain years back, about how he dose it with the jig. (Now be nice guys, no jokes please with the time that took) He was kind enough to answer all my questions and never once referred to me as being a moron.. Thanks again T-Bone! Caught a few casting with a Whistler jig and crawler but then I got into the slip bobber thing and the Whistler has been retired. Lost too many anyways. Caught a few drifting with a Phelps Floater. I usually think I'll fish more with a floater, but never do. General, have you used floating jigs at Kipawa? Those annual monsters you caught over the years.... Jigging or trolling? Colonel Steve and Private Yuriy are jig men, right? Now Steve's brain should be picked before he loses it. Yuriy's memory banks probably have been deleted and no back up is available. 62 days.
C.C.
90% of the time I jig fish casting out and vertical. Have had limited success back trolling jigs which is just a hair faster than drifting. Don't much care for it because going in reverse in a camp boat with a tiller is a pain. One hand on motor, one on rod...well you get the picture.
I usually will use either the cast and retrieve method with jigs or the straight down method. I prefer the stright down method 'cause it leaves a hand free for my beer! For me, when trolling for walleye, it's usually a Mepps spinner (or something similar) or a Hot n' Tot (or something similar). Honestly, Ive just never thought to troll a jighead...maybe I'll have to try!
C.C.
Most of my big fish have been caught on a Float line near the sign.One as you saw last year near Snoopy.
One ( the one in the Avatar)trolling a leech harness near my 3 logs.
Colonel Steve loves to Jig.
He can cast and retrieve that thing all day.
As for Private Yuriy.....He will do what we do. He is very flexible. We say troll....he trolls.
We say float....he floats.
OK...now I have a stupid question. What is a leech harness? Same thing as a crawler harness, but with leeches on it? ??? If so, what's the typical set-up look like? Color? Drift / troll speed? Weight system?
Three logs, eh? Snoopy, eh? Hmm....may just have to dig into this a little more...
Quote from: T-Bone on June 09, 2014, 09:47:10 AM
OK...now I have a stupid question. What is a leech harness? Same thing as a crawler harness, but with leeches on it? ??? If so, what's the typical set-up look like? Color? Drift / troll speed? Weight system?
Three logs, eh? Snoopy, eh? Hmm....may just have to dig into this a little more...
Just a single hook worm harness with a leech on it instead of a worm.
.5 ounce barrel sinker ahead of the harness.
troll as slow as possible.
not a lot of line out.
no beer in my hands. Rod in one hand ,motor handle in the other.
Wearing a hat ,sunscreen and sunglasses.
Colour of blades in the green family.
Got it...thanks.
Do you find a particular structure pattern or element of structure to be more successful than others? Break line? Rock pile? Shoal? Tapering shoreline? I'm assuming you're on bottom, but that may be a bad assumption.
Hmm....no beer in hand not good...may have to hold my rig with my feet.... ;)
THE THING IS WHEN YOUR TROLLING,YOU PASS OVER ALL KINDS OF STRUCTURE WITH EVER CHANGING DEPTHS.
Your forever letting line out or reeling it in to maintain some closeness to bottom.
You may not like to fish that way because it's like work. No where near jigging or float fishing where you put up your feet ,sip on a beer and wait for a jerk from both ends.
Just wondering if anyone has used floating jigs and if so how successful were you? is it a harder technique to master as far as getting a good hookset?
I for one have NEVER used them.....NEVER
Looks like DOGS set up is based on floating jigheads.
I have used floating jigs with success while "slithering" the jig across the bottom. Slithering is just casting the jig out , let it settle to the bottom and reel in very slowly...like half a turn and stop for a few seconds to a few minutes.
We use round split shot (no ears) anywhere from 4 inches to a foot or more above the floating jig with just enough weight to hit the bottom.
Here's the critical part...like any jigging , you have to keep a tight line to feel the typical "Kipawa" light bite...especially when slithering , because you have to feel the bite through the split shot and the friction of the split shot contacting the bottom.
Walleye may tend to hang onto the floating jig a little longer than a hard jig just because they are squishy.
Hope this helps !
I've been wondering how you use the floating jigs and get the feel of the bite. I'm thinking I may try this technique. Thanks!
The light bite/ short strike is the reason I created my slip jigging technique... the fish bite is the on the fisherman side of the weight so one should be able to feel a lighter bite easier. Time will tell though... I need to figure out slip bobbering as well...
Hi guys. For jigging I like to use the K.I.S.S. method of jigging. Just stop the boat over one of my spots and either just drift or anchor. One hand operates the beer tin the other the rod. I only put the beer down to get another one or to put a fresh worm on or to fight and net the walleye. Rasy as pie. For short strikes or light bites I use cheater hooks. Simple eh? Two jerks seperated by a thine line. YA GOTTA LOVE IT!!
After years of pitching and bouncing jigs I decided to troll them to see what happened. I have found there are two techniques that tend to produce results... The first, 1/8 oz jig (I prefer Fuzze Grubs) using the camp boat motor I troll over rock piles and structure feeling the bottom with the jig. This is almost a slow lift and drop technique similar to bouncing. The second is with an 1/8 or 1/16 oz jig (Fuzze Grub or Gulp) Using a trolling motor, I troll weed lines and mud bottoms around areas I think might be holding fish. I let the line carry the jig just off the bottom and troll around until I find them. If the jig rides to high (wind) I use the heavier 1/8 oz. Once you find them you can slow down and jig but there are times I have found they only bite when I am moving so I continue the trolling method.
Hi All. Love the site! As far as jigging goes I would say that 95% of the time we would use Rybak's technique. When you fish with KSmithy72 though, there are no rules...SO last year at Ogascanan toward the end of the week we tried a jig head with a leech while trolling, just for the hec of it. Much to our surprise we caught several walleye of decent size using that method. We were bouncing off of rocks, which helped I am sure. In fact by the last day we had run out of leeches so in desperation I picked up a dried out dead leech from the bottom of the boat (what I refer to as leech jerky) :-\ put it on the jig and trolled away. Believe it or not I actually caught a keeper walleye with it. Guess when they are biting they'll eat anything! Had the best luck with solid red colored jigs. One more week and we'll be off again to O. Can't wait ;D Good Luck to All!! Willy