Where did all the fish go?????????

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RHYBAK

Quote from: Ozzy30 on August 25, 2023, 08:42:38 AM
That's awesome JOW, glad to hear about the 30"er also.  I marked lots of fish tight to bottom last weekend but I also marked a lot of suspended fish in around the 30-35 feet in and around 45-60ftw.  Fishing should really be turning on.  I'm expecting good fishing this weekend as well.

So this is where Lake Erie fishing tactics should work.
Clip on weights, dipsey divers or 7 colors of lead core.
Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle

penner

What about down riggers with a long lead?? Anyone try this?

Calicofishing

It sounds like it was something peculiar to Kipawa because in late July we caught more fish in Dumoine than over the past 15 years. The fish ranged as usual 20-30? depending on the brightness.

puckster_guy

 My thinking is with bass being so prolific  the walleye have a new food source and are too well fed. Maybe lures that imitate a smallmouth?
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BigChief

Bass

I primarily fish the northwest end. We started out going to Taggart Bay in 2002 and have switched to Two Moon since 2018. The number of bass we have been catching has been going up every year. In the beginning(2002) we caught none or 1-2 week. Now we have to catch at least 100 per trip.

On the contrary, while the average size of the walleye we catch has increased due to the slot limit, our overall numbers have been declining every year.

With this new species introduced maybe they are competing for the same food source and the walleye have moved elsewhwere.

Another member who has been going to Two Moon since the early 2000's tends to agree with me.

Kill Switch

Agree with Big Chief. I fish out of Cedar Valley. Bass were rare and now they are all over the bloody place, including the sanctuary areas. They apparently are supposed to be able to coexist, but I am now having my doubts.
Rumour is miners introduced bass to a lake close to the area and now they are everywhere.
I also think warmer water temps are driving the population.
I am by no means a biologist, but I do find the quantity of bass a bit concerning for the fishery.

limacharley

Quote from: Kill Switch on May 21, 2024, 01:17:09 PMAgree with Big Chief. I fish out of Cedar Valley. Bass were rare and now they are all over the bloody place, including the sanctuary areas. They apparently are supposed to be able to coexist, but I am now having my doubts.
Rumour is miners introduced bass to a lake close to the area and now they are everywhere.
I also think warmer water temps are driving the population.
I am by no means a biologist, but I do find the quantity of bass a bit concerning for the fishery.

Miners did no such thing.

I believe as I heard several people repeat it that a significant rainstorm blew a beaver dam and that pond emptied into lake Kipawa somewhere in the North end.
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RHYBAK

Quote from: limacharley on May 24, 2024, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: Kill Switch on May 21, 2024, 01:17:09 PMAgree with Big Chief. I fish out of Cedar Valley. Bass were rare and now they are all over the bloody place, including the sanctuary areas. They apparently are supposed to be able to coexist, but I am now having my doubts.
Rumour is miners introduced bass to a lake close to the area and now they are everywhere.
I also think warmer water temps are driving the population.
I am by no means a biologist, but I do find the quantity of bass a bit concerning for the fishery.

Miners did no such thing.

I believe as I heard several people repeat it that a significant rainstorm blew a beaver dam and that pond emptied into lake Kipawa somewhere in the North end.
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Quote from: limacharley on May 24, 2024, 03:27:23 PMLuc
I heard it was in the Taggard Bay area that this happened.

Quote from: Kill Switch on May 21, 2024, 01:17:09 PMAgree with Big Chief. I fish out of Cedar Valley. Bass were rare and now they are all over the bloody place, including the sanctuary areas. They apparently are supposed to be able to coexist, but I am now having my doubts.
Rumour is miners introduced bass to a lake close to the area and now they are everywhere.
I also think warmer water temps are driving the population.
I am by no means a biologist, but I do find the quantity of bass a bit concerning for the fishery.

Miners did no such thing.

I believe as I heard several people repeat it that a significant rainstorm blew a beaver dam and that pond emptied into lake Kipawa somewhere in the North end.
Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle

ziggy6

So maybe I should label this " where do you think the fish will be?"  My crew and I are going earlier this year than any other year ,June 15 -21. Any advice on where we should look for walleyes?  Shallower?     We usually go the end of June and look for fish in the 15 ft range.Thanks any advice is greatly appreciated.
Ziggy

RHYBAK

Ziggy
Don't change anything.
Start off where you were last year.
Same spots
Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle

BigChief

Quote from: RHYBAK on May 27, 2024, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: limacharley on May 24, 2024, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: Kill Switch on May 21, 2024, 01:17:09 PMAgree with Big Chief. I fish out of Cedar Valley. Bass were rare and now they are all over the bloody place, including the sanctuary areas. They apparently are supposed to be able to coexist, but I am now having my doubts.
Rumour is miners introduced bass to a lake close to the area and now they are everywhere.
I also think warmer water temps are driving the population.
I am by no means a biologist, but I do find the quantity of bass a bit concerning for the fishery.

Miners did no such thing.

I believe as I heard several people repeat it that a significant rainstorm blew a beaver dam and that pond emptied into lake Kipawa somewhere in the North end.
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Quote from: limacharley on May 24, 2024, 03:27:23 PMLuc
I heard it was in the Taggard Bay area that this happened.

Quote from: Kill Switch on May 21, 2024, 01:17:09 PMAgree with Big Chief. I fish out of Cedar Valley. Bass were rare and now they are all over the bloody place, including the sanctuary areas. They apparently are supposed to be able to coexist, but I am now having my doubts.
Rumour is miners introduced bass to a lake close to the area and now they are everywhere.
I also think warmer water temps are driving the population.
I am by no means a biologist, but I do find the quantity of bass a bit concerning for the fishery.

Miners did no such thing.

I believe as I heard several people repeat it that a significant rainstorm blew a beaver dam and that pond emptied into lake Kipawa somewhere in the North end.

There is the Bass lake at TBL that empties into Deep Bay. So that would make sense.

bucknbull

Just got back from CVL, 4 nights. First time here, so we had some help on where to get started. Thanks Patrick and  CVL.

Fishing was slow last year at Alwaki. Didn't think it could get worst, but we only caught 3 walleye on this trip. Last year, the jigging locations were slow, so we trolled and picked up a few fish every day with a larger average size.

I noticed surface temps were 10 degrees cooler at CVL than central Kipawa has been the last few years. It did warm up a few degrees while we were there. Walleye could have been hugging the shorelines. We tried casting to shore in several locations with no luck on walleye and minimal success with bass and pike.

You're right Hodgey ! Where did the fish go ?