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July 2019 Alwaki area Trout fishing

Started by Hodgey1, May 27, 2019, 09:15:53 PM

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Hodgey1

Quote from: Jay Thomas on June 18, 2019, 11:50:42 AM
Obviously, someone is looking after your optimal requirements for fishing. Another item for the tackle box. Have fun!

Jay

Thanks Jay!
Walleye Rock!

T-Bone

Just jabbing you Hodge...no offense intended...you do whatever you need to do. And if you're serious about fishing for lakers I know you want to know where that thermocline is located...

I have little need for that gizmo (though I do want to see how it works)...I'm only interested in the top, say....20-30 fow...that's where those pesky 'eyes are lurking....




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Captain Hali

Hodgey, I use my FISH HAWK for 2 purposes, 1 to check temperature and 2 to check depth. whether I'm using a Dipsy Diver, Deep Sixer, or a banana weight, I let out a given amount of line (100 feet ) using my line counter reel, I then snap the Fish Hawk on to my line, hit the start button, when it says READY, let it slide down the line. It will measure temperature at every 5 feet of depth as it slides down and store it in memory.When you retrieve it and hit the VIEW button it will display depth and temperature every 5 feet, keep scrolling until it stops, that will be your final depth. Say you have out 100 feet of line and the Fish Hawk says you are at 35 feet deep but you want to be 45 feet deep, this means that for every 10 feet of line you let out you are going down 3 1/2 feet. Therefor you need to let out 130 feet of line to get down to 45 feet for that set-up. I use the 100 feet of line for my initial measurement because it is easy to do the math without having to bring a calculator. If you're shooting for a specific temperature it is easier to make an educated guess at what depth your target temp is, based on temp change every 5 feet. Beats taking a WAG at it.   

T-Bone

All this reminds me of Calculus in college...or maybe the Turbo Encabulator...sounds very similar....

https://youtu.be/Ac7G7xOG2Ag
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Hodgey1

Quote from: T-Bone on June 18, 2019, 02:30:08 PM
Just jabbing you Hodge...no offense intended...

None taken T.......but I will allow you to make amends by fetching me a beer when I pull into Au Bercail.   ;)
Walleye Rock!

Hodgey1

Quote from: Captain Hali on June 18, 2019, 03:37:54 PM
Hodgey, I use my FISH HAWK for 2 purposes, 1 to check temperature and 2 to check depth. 
That’s exactly what I’m looking for Captain, thanks for weighing in. My Lake trout freind tells me, 59.2*F  is his sweet spot in Lake Erie. I will be giving it a go here in just 38 days. Cannot wait!
Walleye Rock!

Captain Hali

Hodgey, in my 50+ years of pursuing lakers I have read and heard that their preferred temperature is 48 to 54 degrees. However they will get out of that zone when actively feeding and their prey is in higher temperature waters. Check out the following link, make sure you read the foot notes under the second chart. http://thescientificfisherman.com/fish-species-preferred-temperatures/  Interesting that Ciscos and Whitefish have a preferred temp., 1 and 2 degrees higher than lake trout, which puts them LT's below their main prey. 

Captain Hali

Hodgey, one last thought on Lakers, they are notorious for following your offerings for long distances when not in active feeding mode. What can get them to strike is trolling in an "S " pattern every once in a while, so that the inside line slows down and drops a few feet and the outside line does the opposite. This will sometimes trigger a reaction strike. Or, if you are holding your rod in hand, let the rod back as far as you can then sweep it forward as fast and far as you can. Repeat this 3 or 4 times every couple of 100 yards. This has the same effect as doing " S " turns. I've fooled many Algonquin Park Lakers using these two tactics. Tight lines and enjoy PARADISE.

T-Bone

Quote from: Hodgey1 on June 18, 2019, 08:14:03 PM
None taken T.......but I will allow you to make amends by fetching me a beer when I pull into Au Bercail.   ;)

Fair enough; but it's going to be a Bleue...not once of those 1/2 beer, 1/2 wine, 1/2 fruit juice things you drink in camp.  ;D
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Hodgey1

Quote from: T-Bone on June 19, 2019, 08:41:30 AM
Fair enough; but it's going to be a Bleue...not once of those 1/2 beer, 1/2 wine, 1/2 fruit juice things you drink in camp.  ;D

8) Wine is made from fruit, my beers are barley & Hops only buddy 8) But I will be very pleased to be sharing a Blue with you and the gang again in Canada!
Walleye Rock!

Hodgey1

I’ve received lots of good info here in this thread. Two more days till our departure to Alwaki. I’m hoping to improve my laker count, I will report back soon.
Walleye Rock!

Ozzy30

Well good luck Hodgey, I will be talking to you in camp and seeing how that little fishhawk works.  You guys all have a safe drive up, I should be going through temiscaming about 7pm Friday night.  See you in camp on Sat.

T-Bone

May catch us sitting out front of the Au Bercail about that time...then again we may be saddled-up to the bar at Temrose. Either way we'll see you Saturday.

What cabin are you in Ozzy?
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Ozzy30

The honeymoon suite I think  lol.  I asked Brian but he never did tell me.  Just said to pull up at main dock and they will load my stuff on the 4 wheeler

Hodgey1

Fishawk Update So a week at Kipawa with the Fishawk was interesting. Besides telling you the temperature at depths in 5’ increments, it also can be connected to a rigger ball to let you know it’s running depth. Though it has yet to prove magical for me, in catching Lakers, it like any tool, needs skill and technique to truly utilize its benefits.

If you read my resent trip report, you’ll see I struggled a bit with the Lakers. We had fun, but had some long trolls without a catch. One morning we were motoring into Hunters lake marking piles of fish in over a 100’ ftw. Most were suspended in 50 to 70’ ftw. I was headed to troll some structure, but saw all those fish and assumed they were Lakers, because of the depths and decided to troll through and see what would happen.... 2 hours later, not one fish on? We changed baits, we changed speeds, we changed colors, we prayed to the Laker Gods, to no avail! I even watched one of those fish on my finder, dive to the bottom as I assume it got hit or scared by a rigger ball coming through.

Oh well,,, we caught 6 and lost one, so not a terrible week. What I really want to relay was what the Fishawk recorded.

10’- 73.8
15’- 73.5
20’- 73.4
25’- 69.0
30’- 51.9
35’- 49.2
40’- 48.8
45’- 47.4
50’- 45.6
55’- 44.9
60’- 44.7
65’- 44.5
70’- 44.2
75’- 43.6
80’- 42.8
85’- 42.8
Walleye Rock!