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Title: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: Chazz on July 19, 2021, 11:48:32 AM
Updates on easing border restrictions to be held at 1:30 today - stay tuned
https://www.cicnews.com/2021/07/canada-announcing-updates-to-border-measures-today-0718648.html
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: Chazz on July 19, 2021, 01:51:43 PM
Looks like August 9th border opening to US non-essential travelers

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa-border-measures-reopening-1.6107988
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: michelle on July 19, 2021, 02:36:21 PM
That's great news!!
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: Oarin on July 19, 2021, 03:42:41 PM
Will we Americans be required to file the arriveCAN forms?
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: Chazz on July 19, 2021, 03:55:54 PM
 Oarin- Yes arrivecan will need to be filled out and also will need a the covid vaccination and a negative covid test within 72 hours of crossing.
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: laketrouter on July 19, 2021, 03:56:59 PM
Yes , according to the government the arrivecan portal will have to be used
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: Oarin on July 19, 2021, 07:41:45 PM
It says we need to have a test within 72 hrs. of entering. Is a rapid covid test acceptable?
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: Netman on July 19, 2021, 07:50:31 PM
According to the Canadian web sites I have looked at the test CANNOT  be an antigen test. All the rapid test in my area are Antigen type tests. In talking to a few local clinics they are saying that the turn time to get the PCR test results is 1 to 3 days. It will be cutting things close if it takes the 3 days to get the results.
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: Oarin on July 19, 2021, 08:36:08 PM
Thanks, Netman. I will be really pissed if I get the test and don't get results in time. 72 hours doesn't give much wiggle room.
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: Chazz on July 20, 2021, 08:23:46 AM
My wife and I got one just over two weeks ago right before we crossed the border.  We got it at CVS pharmacy and got the results in one day.  The labs are probably not as busy as early in the pandemic.
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: chiaro on July 20, 2021, 11:06:11 AM
The test prior to crossing seems like overkill. I guess there are a very few cases where people have a double jab, still get infected and can still spread it.

Had they tried to open the border in April there would have been outrage. Not a peep now. Anyone who wants a jab has had the opportunity and now it's just a matter of time before anyone who wants the second jab gets it. Numbers are way down and those at risk simply can be careful for a month or so.

It will be interesting going forward. Our countries are in two different positions. Will a high vaccination rate be enough protection for the general population through the winter? Likely we will have pockets where covid festers. In that regard I feel sorry for health care workers and those that are ill. In those pockets things won't get back to normal. If your hospital is full no operations are happening.

Then the question will be at what point in time do you need a booster? Flu shots were always available previously. What if over 70% of your population needs a booster say in 6 months? That is easier said then done.
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: limacharley on July 20, 2021, 12:14:51 PM
Quote from: Oarin on July 19, 2021, 03:42:41 PM
Will we Americans be required to file the arriveCAN forms?

Can I suggest you get your border crossing advice from an official government source instead of a fishing forum? Don't want you to be disappointed.
That goes for all you Americans.
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: Netman on July 20, 2021, 03:50:07 PM
Good advice, this is the site I was using.
https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/border

It appears to be the official  Government of Canada web site?
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: chiaro on July 20, 2021, 05:37:24 PM
Yup...it is legit.
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: Chumy77 on July 20, 2021, 07:02:51 PM
The Boarder  Officer will be on strike by then ,which could cause issue for reopening.
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: smitty55 on July 21, 2021, 12:30:05 AM
Any links to that story?
LC had the best advice imo, when it happens it happens.
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: michelle on July 21, 2021, 07:40:17 AM
https://globalnews.ca/news/7939273/canada-us-border-strike-votes/amp/
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: limacharley on July 21, 2021, 09:19:12 AM
Quote from: Chumy77 on July 20, 2021, 07:02:51 PM
The Boarder  Officer will be on strike by then ,which could cause issue for reopening.

Without a contract since June 2018-Hope they get everything they ask for.
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: Hodgey1 on July 21, 2021, 10:08:28 AM
Pre testing info:

https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/flying-canada-checklist/covid-19-testing-travellers-coming-into-canada (https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/flying-canada-checklist/covid-19-testing-travellers-coming-into-canada)
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: T-Bone on July 21, 2021, 07:33:38 PM
Does anybody know what the situation is if an American goes up to Canada, but then comes back to US? Closure extended to Aug 21 coming south. That could jack things up in a hurry if a quarantine is called for upon return.
Title: Re: Border Restrictions Updates
Post by: chiaro on July 22, 2021, 12:17:02 PM
Quote from: T-Bone on July 21, 2021, 07:33:38 PM
Does anybody know what the situation is if an American goes up to Canada, but then comes back to US? Closure extended to Aug 21 coming south. That could jack things up in a hurry if a quarantine is called for upon return.

There would be irony in this. All along it was the Canadian border opening too slowly and then in the end Americans could get tripped up on returning to the US. Canadians can fly into the US but can't drive across. Somethings gotta give.