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Title: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: GregL on October 07, 2021, 08:43:03 AM
I just checked the regulations and they changed again for this year on Lake Nipissing. Why does MNR here in Ontario make
such bad decisions!!

They have changed the limit to 2 walleye over 18.2 inches..

So we want to improve the walleye size and numbers on this lake so we are only going to let people keep the largest of the breeding stock!

Way to go Ontario!
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: Ozzy30 on October 07, 2021, 02:25:56 PM
It's like that at most lakes around home here.  I don't get it either.
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: GregL on October 07, 2021, 02:56:33 PM
Yup, they just can't get it right!
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: smitty55 on October 07, 2021, 03:21:43 PM
Sometimes I think some decisions are made just to make it look like they are actually doing something, doesn't matter if its a good one.
In the case of Nipissing I wonder if they've changed any of the regs pertaining to the native harvest as well?
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: GregL on October 07, 2021, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: smitty55 on October 07, 2021, 03:21:43 PM
Sometimes I think some decisions are made just to make it look like they are actually doing something, doesn't matter if its a good one.
In the case of Nipissing I wonder if they've changed any of the regs pertaining to the native harvest as well?

I doubt it.

Really a 2 fish limit is fine if you live close by , just go out grab a few for dinner when you want, all good.

We rent a cabin once a year here and the cost $$ vs reward is not worth it to go to nip any more.

When we fish for walleye it's for meat LOL!.. If I wanted to fish for fishing.. that would musky or bass. They fight better LOL!
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: plowjock on November 23, 2021, 06:39:50 AM
Maybe want to look at Lake Temagami. Check out Loon Lodge. Adam used to guide on White Lake just out from Arnprior. Bought Loon about a year ago. Pretty successful first year. Client just hauled in a close to 18 lb. eye out of the lake and released it. Some decent photos up on Loon Lodge website. Also some real good Lakers in there. Much like Lake Kipawa but with a few more shoals.
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: GregL on November 29, 2021, 09:24:04 AM
I've been wanting to try Temagami, we were talking about taking a week at thanksgiving next year. Might be a good time to change it up :)


Quote from: plowjock on November 23, 2021, 06:39:50 AM
Maybe want to look at Lake Temagami. Check out Loon Lodge. Adam used to guide on White Lake just out from Arnprior. Bought Loon about a year ago. Pretty successful first year. Client just hauled in a close to 18 lb. eye out of the lake and released it. Some decent photos up on Loon Lodge website. Also some real good Lakers in there. Much like Lake Kipawa but with a few more shoals.
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: plowjock on November 30, 2021, 06:37:27 AM
GregL I would suggest a lot of map study over this wintery season. Few more shoals is a real misnomer. Sure gives lot more areas for fish action with STRUCTURE. I think I will be carrying a spare prop though. Many fishy looking locations on Navionics.
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: puckster_guy on December 01, 2021, 09:28:01 AM
 Been using the "map draw" on my garmin unit on Maclauglan lake(one day I'll get that spelling right lol) It totally changed where and how I fish that lake. The nav map is no way near as accurate. I found an underwater ridge that's loaded with fish, That I never knew existed. plus a few new shoals and interesting points.
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: smitty55 on December 02, 2021, 01:34:52 AM
Quote from: puckster_guy on December 01, 2021, 09:28:01 AM
Been using the "map draw" on my garmin unit on Maclauglan lake(one day I'll get that spelling right lol) It totally changed where and how I fish that lake. The nav map is no way near as accurate. I found an underwater ridge that's loaded with fish, That I never knew existed. plus a few new shoals and interesting points.
That's for sure Joe. With tech today your learning curve is steep. When I first started fishing Kipawa in the early 80's I had no sonar. I learned the bottom structure for trolling Lakers around Corbeau and down to Alwaki by studying the shorelines and for the most part letting out more lead core until my Big Hammer started nicking bottom, usually in the 7-10 colours range. Lot's of meandering along shorelines for hours learning the lake bottom. So the very first run I learned from the bud that I went camping with in the shortcut on my first trip was the Corbeau Rock run coming out of the shortcut around to Corbeau Lodge. This is the literal physical hub of the whole system and has always been a special spot for me. Some here will recall the big sign up on the inside cliff of Corbeau Rock. The steadfast rule was to troll just far enough from the sign so that you couldn't read it with 7 colours out. Then at 40 my eyes got worse and the sign rotted and fell apart  By my fourth year I had one of the first paper graphs that I bought used from a bud. It had the Lowrance "grey scale" feature which was really useful at times. Plenty of power and real time analog data without any silly fish symbols, it was just better.
Navionics is handy as heck for sure as a great reference, when I first saw it posted here I spent lots of time wandering around reliving great times and recalling all those runs that we only knew from experience learned over time. It can only be so accurate though. At the same time I'm noticing for example real steep structure I know is there like not far from Alwaki  that you would never know by studying the app. Now you have GPS to set waypoints, it's a whole different world. You still have to actually tour the structure to learn it of course but you have a it figured well. Good stuff...
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: GregL on December 07, 2021, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: plowjock on November 30, 2021, 06:37:27 AM
GregL I would suggest a lot of map study over this wintery season. Few more shoals is a real misnomer. Sure gives lot more areas for fish action with STRUCTURE. I think I will be carrying a spare prop though. Many fishy looking locations on Navionics.

Absolutely! I am pretty good at finding shoals un-intentionally LOL!
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: plowjock on December 08, 2021, 06:34:36 AM
GregL. Are you saying that you have a good supply of props for your boat? I know a river or two that I've fished and have dinged a few ears on the prop. i could have bought new, probably cheaper but kept sending them out for rebuilding. Only running aluminum, so I don't do more damage to the main shaft and lower unit. I have seen some newbies running on Newboro Lake run between Channel marker and shoal. Heard an awful sound and said to my buddy, there goes 5-7000Dollars down the drain. He'll learn sooner or later.
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: GregL on December 09, 2021, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: plowjock on December 08, 2021, 06:34:36 AM
GregL. Are you saying that you have a good supply of props for your boat? I know a river or two that I've fished and have dinged a few ears on the prop. i could have bought new, probably cheaper but kept sending them out for rebuilding. Only running aluminum, so I don't do more damage to the main shaft and lower unit. I have seen some newbies running on Newboro Lake run between Channel marker and shoal. Heard an awful sound and said to my buddy, there goes 5-7000Dollars down the drain. He'll learn sooner or later.

I've got a couple on Kip! In my defense they were unmarked HAHA!



Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: puckster_guy on December 09, 2021, 03:16:08 PM
Been at my end of the lake for almost ten yrs now and every winter I rebuild my prop lol. I keep a spare in case...
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: limacharley on December 13, 2021, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: GregL on October 07, 2021, 08:43:03 AM
I just checked the regulations and they changed again for this year on Lake Nipissing. Why does MNR here in Ontario make
such bad decisions!!

They have changed the limit to 2 walleye over 18.2 inches..

So we want to improve the walleye size and numbers on this lake so we are only going to let people keep the largest of the breeding stock!

Way to go Ontario!

Been that way since 2015 but there is hope....

New slot for Jan 2022...

Here are the new regulations pertaining to Nipissing for January 2022

Largemouth and Smallmouth Bass - open from
January 1 to March 15 and third Saturday in
May to November 30
• Muskellunge - open from third Saturday in June
to November 30
• Muskellunge - S-1 and C-0; must be greater
than 137 cm
• Northern Pike - S-4 and C-2; not more than 1
greater than 61 cm, none greater than 86 cm
• Walleye and Yellow Perch - open from January
1 to March 15 and third Saturday in May to
October 15
• Walleye - S-2 and C-1; must be between
40-45 cm

https://files.ontario.ca/ndmnrf-2022-fishin...-2021-12-13.pdf

Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: GregL on December 14, 2021, 01:50:14 PM
Quote from: limacharley on December 13, 2021, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: GregL on October 07, 2021, 08:43:03 AM
I just checked the regulations and they changed again for this year on Lake Nipissing. Why does MNR here in Ontario make
such bad decisions!!

They have changed the limit to 2 walleye over 18.2 inches..

So we want to improve the walleye size and numbers on this lake so we are only going to let people keep the largest of the breeding stock!

Way to go Ontario!

Been that way since 2015 but there is hope....

New slot for Jan 2022...

Here are the new regulations pertaining to Nipissing for January 2022

Largemouth and Smallmouth Bass - open from
January 1 to March 15 and third Saturday in
May to November 30
• Muskellunge - open from third Saturday in June
to November 30
• Muskellunge - S-1 and C-0; must be greater
than 137 cm
• Northern Pike - S-4 and C-2; not more than 1
greater than 61 cm, none greater than 86 cm
• Walleye and Yellow Perch - open from January
1 to March 15 and third Saturday in May to
October 15
• Walleye - S-2 and C-1; must be between
40-45 cm

https://files.ontario.ca/ndmnrf-2022-fishin...-2021-12-13.pdf

Thanks ya, I read the 2022 regs instead by mistake.. but not much hope they are giving you a whole 2 inches to catch a fish you can keep.. it's joke!
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: limacharley on December 15, 2021, 08:08:20 AM
Greg
Most of us from this area don't think it's a joke. We find that it's progressive.
I have fished Nip a few times since 2015 and my Plant Manager fishes just about every weekend
and 99% of the time the fish we catch are in between 15" and 17.5".
We were always looking for that elusive 18.1"

The regs today reflect what is actually in the lake. Now all those fish we caught previously are
a little bigger but you can bet there will be an abundance in the right eating class.
In fact the creel surveys prove that out.

By allowing anglers to keep smaller walleye leaves the bigger ones to spawn.
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: GregL on December 15, 2021, 11:24:32 AM
Quote from: limacharley on December 15, 2021, 08:08:20 AM
Greg
Most of us from this area don't think it's a joke. We find that it's progressive.
I have fished Nip a few times since 2015 and my Plant Manager fishes just about every weekend
and 99% of the time the fish we catch are in between 15" and 17.5".
We were always looking for that elusive 18.1"

The regs today reflect what is actually in the lake. Now all those fish we caught previously are
a little bigger but you can bet there will be an abundance in the right eating class.
In fact the creel surveys prove that out.

By allowing anglers to keep smaller walleye leaves the bigger ones to spawn.

That's interesting! I wonder if depends on the area of the lake. I used to fish the Callander area, a long time ago. I can believe there are a lot of slot fish in that area.

We moved to the west arm because it's more scenic and less crowding. I'm sure there are a ton of slot fish in the west arm as well but we struggle to get fish in the slot, most of the fish we have been
catching are above the slot. This is fine if you are local but when your spending 1500 - 2000 for 3 days of fishing and can only put 2 fish in the boat, it's just not worth it.

At least to me anyways. I would like to try the central part of the lake, there's gotta be a ton of productive shoals out there!


Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: Captain Steve on December 16, 2021, 12:16:07 PM
Anyone else know that a Quebec fishing license can now be bought online?
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: Ozzy30 on December 16, 2021, 03:32:08 PM
I did not know that but i believe last years license is good to the end of march.
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: Greg on December 18, 2021, 08:23:07 PM
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Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: T-Bone on December 22, 2021, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: GregL on December 15, 2021, 11:24:32 AM
This is fine if you are local but when your spending 1500 - 2000 for 3 days of fishing and can only put 2 fish in the boat, it's just not worth it.

I’ll never get it. I travel 1,600 miles round trip, put 100s of fish in the boat, and keep none…and it’s probably the best investment I make every year. Fishing isn’t about how many fish you can keep and eat…I thought it was a fun sport to pass time in an enjoyment of the outdoors.

Go ahead… bash away…

Sorry… but I’ll never get it…
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: GregL on December 23, 2021, 09:18:06 AM
Quote from: T-Bone on December 22, 2021, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: GregL on December 15, 2021, 11:24:32 AM
This is fine if you are local but when your spending 1500 - 2000 for 3 days of fishing and can only put 2 fish in the boat, it's just not worth it.

I’ll never get it. I travel 1,600 miles round trip, put 100s of fish in the boat, and keep none…and it’s probably the best investment I make every year. Fishing isn’t about how many fish you can keep and eat…I thought it was a fun sport to pass time in an enjoyment of the outdoors.

Go ahead… bash away…

Sorry… but I’ll never get it…


Eh, man nobody judging, that's a great way to look at it! Nothing wrong with catch and release at all and I totally get it!

Personally, if I was just looking for catch & release fishing, I would be fishing small mouth or musky, a much better fight.

We love to just be on the water and enjoy the outdoors as well, part of our enjoyment is keeping some walleye to eat whether it be in camp or at home. I actually really like doing a fish fry at home. It is fun to  have the group come over and enjoy it together. I find we spend the dinner talking about past trips etc.. it's great for reminiscing when you can't be there :)

My real beef is with how the lake is managed, if they really want to help the lake they would shut down the ice season and commercial fishing. If this would happen I would be ok only being able to keep 2 fish per angler, to support a viable walleye population, conveniently 3 hours from my home.





Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: Kyle Skelding on April 25, 2022, 05:35:11 PM
That slot size would be frustrating for those looking to have a shore lunch or fish fry at camp. I think kipawa has an ideal slot, but it may depend on the Walleye population currently in Nipissing. They'll likely flip the slot when this run of smaller walleye get bigger.
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: Hodgey1 on April 27, 2022, 01:13:52 PM
I would never hunt beef cows, without wanting to eat me a steak!  8)
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: Ira on April 28, 2022, 09:21:23 AM
Quote from: Captain Steve on December 16, 2021, 12:16:07 PM
Anyone else know that a Quebec fishing license can now be bought online?

I saw this on another thread, and checked into it. I went to

https://www.quebec.ca/en/tourism-and-recreation/sporting-and-outdoor-activities/my-hunting-fishing-account

and clicked the link "Access to My Hunting & Fishing Account" and was sent to a blank page.

Anyone have better way to access online licensing?
Title: Re: This will be our last trip to Lake Nipissing! Where is Ontario's MNR heads at!!
Post by: puckster_guy on April 29, 2022, 08:54:01 AM
Just stop in to ProNature on your way in. To me it's just the easiest way. I did a couple of days ago was out in 15 minutes. Then hit Stop 102...