It appears from what we have been able to
read online that starting June 4th the forests
and Zecs in Quebec were closed due to forest fires. Does
anyone have any info on this?
This could be a problem for our June 17 trip as we need to drive through Zec Kipawa.
I heard this morning that entrance into all Zec's are closed.
The road at Laniel is closed.
Nobody can get into the camps such as Taggard Bay nor 3Seasons for now.
All provincial camp grounds ....closed
Is there good source for updates on the internet or elsewhere (other than here) . We are scheduled to be at 3 Seasons on the 17th . Praying for rain !
Mike
Check with John from 3Seasons regarding your trip.
At this time, he was not allowed past Laniel and he is at home in Guelph.
Your trip as well as my trip are on hold
Roads are close at Laniel
Mike
You can also check at sopfeu.qc.ca
Was emailed today by owner of Sasseginaga that Wildlife Protection Ifficers are visiting the camps and letting the owners know its time to evacuate.
First plague, now fire, what?s next locusts or some other biblical curse. All I want to do is spend a week in Canada fishing with my dad?
Air quality here in Southern Ontario is lousy. I live near Hamilton (Waterdown) and there is a heavy haze from the fires. Most kids sports have been cancelled.
Praying for some rain up north.
Lake Kipawa outfitters had already agreed to no camp fires a couple of weeks ago. Saturday is the only significant rainfall forecast for Laniel. Can't come soon enough. :(
Quote from: Muchadoaboutnothin on June 06, 2023, 05:23:11 PM
First plague, now fire, what?s next locusts or some other biblical curse. All I want to do is spend a week in Canada fishing with my dad?
I hope you get that week with dad fishing . It?s been a rough few years, particularly for outfitters.
If anyone obtains some info it would be helpful if you could post it. With two and a half weeks before we make our trip to 3 seasons we're obviously searching for info. to see what happens and if we should start looking for a Plan B. thank you
Weather forecast looks promising as far as helping with the forest fires. Rain hopefully starting Friday for straight days. Fingers crossed.
Oops Meant to say 7 straight days
Quote from: ziggy6 on June 07, 2023, 06:20:53 AM
If anyone obtains some info it would be helpful if you could post it. With two and a half weeks before we make our trip to 3 seasons we're obviously searching for info. to see what happens and if we should start looking for a Plan B. thank you
Ziggy
What dates are you there?
Arrive June 24 - out June 30
Quote from: RHYBAK on June 07, 2023, 07:16:13 AM
Quote from: ziggy6 on June 07, 2023, 06:20:53 AM
If anyone obtains some info it would be helpful if you could post it. With two and a half weeks before we make our trip to 3 seasons we're obviously searching for info. to see what happens and if we should start looking for a Plan B. thank you
Ziggy
What dates are you there?
Hey 289walleye
I'm in Dundas . Air quality is brutal. Can't even blame Dofasco for this one . I spent most of 39 years in yhe big D coke oven as a millwright
Kipawa Lodge posted on FB the following:
Good news! Bad news! The good news is that it is raining in Kipawa at this moment. The bad news, the bush is still closed. Barricades have been set up at the boat launches and at the Maniwaki road. Just to clarify, this was not a voluntary evacuation. The risk is real! We are far from danger at this moment. The closing of the bush was to prevent any additional fires from popping up. Air quality at Kipawa Lodge is good. We will keep you posted.
Quote from: BigChief on June 07, 2023, 08:59:13 PM
Kipawa Lodge posted on FB the following:
Good news! Bad news! The good news is that it is raining in Kipawa at this moment. The bad news, the bush is still closed. Barricades have been set up at the boat launches and at the Maniwaki road. Just to clarify, this was not a voluntary evacuation. The risk is real! We are far from danger at this moment. The closing of the bush was to prevent any additional fires from popping up. Air quality at Kipawa Lodge is good. We will keep you posted.
The QPP told me the same. Our region is not currently in danger, the restrictions were not based on the Kipawa areas threat, but rather precautionary due to potential resource issues in the event a fire broke out in our area. The forecast shows a number of rain days upcoming, here's hoping it gets us all back to our cottages / lodges / etc.
Very helpful resource to understand the hotspots and magnitude.
https://firesmoke.ca/forecasts/current/
Decent amount of rain overnight in the area and more in the forecast.
Quote from: Campkipawa on June 09, 2023, 06:35:04 AM
Decent amount of rain overnight in the area and more in the forecast.
Let's hope more keeps coming!
Rain is good!!
Rhybak Did your trip for this weekend into 3seasons get cancelled?
Those close to the action what do you think the odds are that the forests and zecs open back up
for the June 17 to 24th trips? It appears the projections are showing low fire risk for the greater Kipawa area by
Monday.
I would say the chances are very high for reopening given the current situation (Kipawa area was never itself considered high risk) and the forecast shows significant rain over the next week. I would think (only my opinion) they will open in the coming days.
Wayne has been posting regular updates on their FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/KipawaLodge
I heard from a local friend of mine. Due to rain already received and rain in the forecast, roads may well be reopened by Monday. Keeping fingers crossed lol.
Just an update and bit of a trip report. We were at Alwaki from June 3-9th. Pulled the boat out yesterday morning at around 9 am at Kipawa Gov't launch. It had barricades up which we moved to be able to get out. Of course someone in a black pick up stops and takes our picture and rushes off. (not sure what exactly that was about but naturally we had to get our boat and gear out and loaded). We had heard from Brian that Kipawa Lodge was taking people out mid week and I believe Brian cancelled any bookings for the upcoming week. It was a very good week of fishing with no rain until Thursday night..it rained some but certainly not enough to change anything drastically. Air up there was hazy throughout the week and one day the smell of smoke was evident.
Bugs were absolutely horrible. Black flies were maxed out and skitters were out in the evenings.
Fishing was awesome as always. Couple of our go to spots didnt produce as well but others were better than usual. Several days of over 40 fish in our boat (3 of us). Largest fish was a beauty 8 lb, 29 inch female that had spawned out and another 6 or so that were above slot and released. Several of the smaller males were still miking some. Hopefully no new fires will happen that would endanger this beautiful area.
Good luck to anyone who is heading up and hopefully they will get more rain soon.
John
@JohnPK There was a mandatory closure of the forests earlier in the week so outfitters were supposed to have evacuated their guests - that?s probably why someone was taking your picture as you shouldn?t have been there and moved a barricade to get your boat out. For someone passing by they may not have been able to tell if you were leaving or launching. If they got your plates and report you you might find yourself in some trouble with the government.
Here?s a news article from June 7th.. https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/quebec-wilderness-outfitters-hit-hard-by-quebec-fires-and-forest-access-ban-1.1929932
basically on Tuesday 350 outfitters in Quebec were shut down including all in the Kipawa area and Abitibi-temiscaming so there should not have been any guests at any lodges fishing or any tourists on the lake for the rest of the week or currently as it is still closed. There was/is no immediate danger but conditions were and I believe still are extremely dry and the order to evacuate was to lower risk of new fires as there would be no help with an unprecedented number of fires throughout Quebec and Canada.
For those looking for more info and updates SOPFEU is where to look and also to report a fire
https://sopfeu.qc.ca/
@ John PK, thanks John for the updates , looks like you guys had a great trip. I'm suppose to go the week of June 17Th ,had a few question.
How deep were you catching them, trolling ,jigging, slip-bobber(best presentation)Were you using worms/leeches. Also can you transport worms and leeches from Ontario to Quebec. Any info would be appreciated...Chumy
A good amount of rain fell in the kipawa area yesterday afternoon, evening, and into the night. The upcoming forecast shows significant rain, 30-50mm tomorrow alone. The province has also secured more manpower, enough so that they are now able to target less pressing fires. Hoping for an update soon.
Quote from: Campkipawa on June 11, 2023, 04:47:53 PM
A good amount of rain fell in the kipawa area yesterday afternoon, evening, and into the night. The upcoming forecast shows significant rain, 30-50mm tomorrow alone. The province has also secured more manpower, enough so that they are now able to target less pressing fires. Hoping for an update soon.
Fingers crossed.....
Based on SOPFEU website the closest out of control fires to the kipawa regions were fires 377 and 337, both now are considered 'being held'. Fire 360 is now the closest, which is approximately 450 to 500km away in MRC show of La Valle-de-la-Gatineau.
https://sopfeu.qc.ca/en/
https://sopfeu.qc.ca/en/restrictions/levee-partielle-du-territoire-touche-par-linterdiction-dacces-en-foret-sur-les-terres-du-domaine-de-letat-et-par-la-fermeture-de-chemins-2/
I GOT WORD FROM 3SEASONS CAMP
OPEN FOR BISINESS AS OF TOMORROW AGAIN
ALL GOOD TO GO
I drove into town today for supplies. Maniwaki is wide open. needs grading lol kinda rough but I made into town and back.
Hallelujah !!!
3 Season Saturday morning . Year 24 (I think)
Quote from: Campkipawa on June 11, 2023, 04:47:53 PM
A good amount of rain fell in the kipawa area yesterday afternoon, evening, and into the night. The upcoming forecast shows significant rain, 30-50mm tomorrow alone. The province has also secured more manpower, enough so that they are now able to target less pressing fires. Hoping for an update soon.
Yes we had a good week as always. Regarding leeches, we buy ours at ProNature in Temiskaming. Pretty sure you can transport worms anywhere these days. You may want to call ProtNature in advance to get them to have them ready. 819-627-9432 80.00 per pound now so not cheap. We use strictly leeches. Either on a jig or with a slip sinker and single hook. Also did use slip bobbers which works well unless boat swings some if on a drop off as it is tough to keep it within a food or so of bottom. Fish were anywhere from 8 fow to 30 fow. Looks like you are good to go for the 17th ! Thankfully they got rain up there. Have a great trip.
John
Anyone headed out to Dumoine? Any issues getting there?
There are none now. You will be able to get in this weekend.
We leave to drive up tomorrow and then Dumoine Thursday. Word is all is clear. Actual we have friends who are there right now Would have heard from them by now if there was a problem.
Right now there are no road closures. C/mon down!!!!!
Can anyone that is up in the area comment on the air quality as far as smok up there now . Heading up in two weeks. Thanks
Quote from: Chazz on June 30, 2023, 07:12:22 AM
Can anyone that is up in the area comment on the air quality as far as smok up there now . Heading up in two weeks. Thanks
https://firesmoke.ca/forecasts/current/
This is a good map too...
https://sopfeu.qc.ca/en/
Thanks guys for the links, great useful information but was hoping could get some first hand info from someone that is actually in the area now.
I am in the area currently and the air quality is quite good. Winds play a huge role. East and North East will bring smoke into the area, prevailing west and southwest winds clear it out generally. Warm and calm again today. 👍
I seen the SOPFEU amended their open fire and forest access yesterday. Problem is I don't understand exactly what was affected or how. Anyone know what the amendments actually affect?
We were up till last Fri July 7
Called Quebec police in Temiscaming They said you can have a camp fire but you need a cage
over it
The sign at the bridge as you cross into Quebec was still there but not lit said nothing
Is it safe to assume since no one is posting about road closures due to forest fires, that it?s no longer an issue ?
I?ll be at Lake Kipawa July 29 to Aug. 3, 2023.
Cheers !
Except for a camp fire ban. roads are open. Business as usual. Now if they can only grade Maniwaki...
That?s awesome puckster !
Thanks for the update.
Operation Kipawa is full steam ahead. 👍😁
First of all, it's been way too long since I've not only been on the forum here, but to Kipawa as well. With the effects of Covid on our world and life in general, Ive been MIA.
I was pleasantly surprised to see many names I still recognize. I hope everyone has been well.
I didn't think I was going to make it up for the fourth straight year, when my fortunes changed! My 13 year old was tugging on my heart strings when he said he barely remembers it up there and was in 4th grade last time we were up. I think its definitely time to make that trip once again. The perfect combination of work slowing enough to catch a breath, and a time that worked out with others who were visiting the cabin couldn't have worked out better.
Anyways, the reason for checking this thread out was the curiosity of the fire situation. Im glad to see that things are much better than they were a few weeks ago. With rain in the forecast much of this week that should only help.
I will be up the 21st through the 26th of July, and even though its not a whole week I'm going to hopefully make every minute of it count.
So yes, I'm still alive! lol my biggest issue has just been I don't sit down long enough to be in front of the computer to read or reply in this forum. Even though I always have my phone on my person... its not easy to read or respond using it. plus not getting to go up in several years, it just kept my mind off the fact that I couldn't be up there.
Be safe and enjoy your time on Kipawa friends!
Hi, Brad! Welcome back to Kipawa. Your daughter's wedding looked amazing, congratulations. Jon and I will be up at Taggarts the same week you and your son will be there. Maybe we'll run into you at the Laniel store again. Good luck and safe travels. Gary (Oarin)
Good to hear from You, Brad. I figured since you moved to Texas, You and Sarge eloped to Mexico or something. Welcome back bro.
Hey Gary! That would be great to run into you again! Safe travels and enjoy your trip! I appreciate your kind words about the wedding! it couldn't have been a more perfect day!
Good to hear from you PG! Although during the winter months there are times I wish I lived in Texas, Im still in good olde Ohio! Hope you are well my friends!
I have been Awol for to long myself . Last year was a bust and the year before that We did the Boundry Water trip . Hope to make it back on August 4.