July 2019 Alwaki area Trout fishing

[Captain Hali]

 Hodgey1, I have seen several videos of guides jigging for Lakers on Lake Opeongo in Algonquin Park with great success using white tube jigs and white twister tail grubs like Mr. Twister. It's definitely worth a try if you want to try something different. If you do have a go at it, let us know what results you have.

[Ozzy30]

I use the worden wobblers or wobble glo on this website.  Same thing just the worden wobbler is complete setup with hook.  I always just cut off the hooks and retied.
http://www.yakimabait.com/products/wobble-glo/
This is what I use on my dipsey diver's, Mattie and T-bone can backup the success of this device.  Strangest looking setup but catches lots of good fish.  This is what the laker hit when Mattie hip checked my wife.  lol

[smitty55]

Thanks @smitty55 for your continued Laker help.

I am curious about Gulp Minnows. Since real and dead minnows are not allowed in Kipawa, has anyone found the Gulp minnow to be successful when fishing for Lakers or are they illegal also?

Hodgey I should have saved my messages to you as sometimes I'm not sure if I mentioned something or not. As for the gulp minnows they have worked for me behind the gang troll but instead of threading them on the leader I just lip hooked two of them on the treble hook and it tracked real good with no spinning.

Greg what I've always done for a long time and even with live minnows in Ontario is after threading the minnow on through the vent and out the mouth I take the needle up under the chin and up through just behind the lips. This creates a loop in the line that keeps the mouth closed and keeps the tension on the front of the bait which prevents the minnow/bait from curling up and spinning. I always use those fine needles that come with the gorge hook packages as the don't make as big a hole.
Cheers

[Greg]

@smitty55  - Great idea - thx - if I ever use them again, Ill give it a try.

Greg

[Hodgey1]

Fishawk Update

We caught 6 and lost one, so not a terrible week. What I really want to relay was what the Fishawk recorded.

10’- 73.8
15’- 73.5
20’- 73.4
25’- 69.0
30’- 51.9
35’- 49.2
40’- 48.8
45’- 47.4
50’- 45.6
55’- 44.9
60’- 44.7
65’- 44.5
70’- 44.2
75’- 43.6
80’- 42.8
85’- 42.8

I have just returned from another week in Paradise. We did some Laker fishing with limited success. Our total number of fish landed, was only three fish with one lost, in four outings. I will be reading up over the winter to be better prepared for next July.

As you will see below, I think the water temps had them way deeper than in July. We started running lures at 35-40' with no sucess and ultimately moved down to 55-60' once I had mapped an area with my Garmin Quickdraw and felt comfortable.

Here is Sept temp readings of the water column:

  0'- 66.6
  5'- 67.1
10'- 67.1
15'- 67.1
20'- 67.1
25'- 66.9
30'- 66.6
35'- 62.2
40'- 52.9
45'- 49.0
50'- 47.7
55'- 46.0
60'- 45.5
65'- 45.0
70'- 44.7
75'- 45.0
80'- 44.4
85'- 43.9
90'- 43.4
95'- 43.2

[RHYBAK]

Hodgey1

Nice recording.
The 40 foot mark would have been the starting point ( my opinion only)

Now that you have an I-Pilot, I would study up on vertical jigging for Lake Trout.
I have been doing that in Ontario for two years now with excellent success.
Up at 3Seasons Camp area, we have a lot of deep water full of Lakers.
There is one particular spot that everybody anchors and jig for them with excellent success.
One couple in camp recorded a 60 fish day jigging.

Get yourself a few lures called the Vibrato . You basically hit the bottom with them while jigging.
Get some white swim baits ( Swammers)
If you mark a fish looking at your swammer, you slowly start reeling it up and hold on. It will chase the bait up and slam it.
Other lures would be anything silver that can be vertically jigged.

My best day this year on my Ontario lake was 20 Lake Trout in four hours ranging from 8 pounds to 18 pounds.

[T-Bone]

Get yourself a few lures called the Vibrato . You basically hit the bottom with them while jigging.
Get some white swim baits ( Swammers)
If you mark a fish looking at your swammer, you slowly start reeling it up and hold on. It will chase the bait up and slam it.

So, to be clear, does this mean your fishing these vibrato and swammer swim baits essentially "on the bottom" I always thought lakers suspend most of the time...

[RHYBAK]

Lakers are attracted to bait feeding near bottom most of the time.
If they see something stirring up the bottom, they get curious and come in to inspect.

Most of the time I keep my Swammer suspended about five feet off bottom.
When the laker comes in, I force it to give chase.

Most Lakers swim close to the bottom althought when trolling, I target the suspended lakers.
I find the big brutes stay near bottom

[Ozzy30]

Rhybak what size swammer are you using?  The 4" or 5.5".  Which colors do you find work the best and how are you hooking them?  I have been wanting to try the jigging around home but usually just find it easier to sit back with my feet up trolling.

Thanks

[Jay Thomas]

Ditto what Ozzy30 said.

Jay

[Chumy77]

Do you mean Sebile Vibrato ,if yes you add a swammer at one end ,do you drift while jigging kind or  slow troll i'm sure you can't anchor that deep,thanks.

[RHYBAK]

The Vibrato is jigged bare.

In Muskoka, I use the 5.5" Swammers in pearl white hooked onto a 3/4 oz. jig head ( any kind)
The whiter the better.
On Kipawa, I would use the 4" swammer since the trout are much smaller.

I , personally do not drift.
I have an I-Pilot on the front of the boat which serves as my anchor.

[Jay Thomas]

The Vibrato is jigged bare.

In Muskoka, I use the 5.5" Swammers in pearl white hooked onto a 3/4 oz. jig head ( any kind)
The whiter the better.
On Kipawa, I would use the 4" swammer since the trout are much smaller.

I , personally do not drift.
I have an I-Pilot on the front of the boat which serves as my anchor.

Thanks.

Jay

[Ozzy30]

Thanks, I may just have to try that out Sat. morning.  Thanks

[Hodgey1]

The Vibrato is jigged bare.

In Muskoka, I use the 5.5" Swammers in pearl white hooked onto a 3/4 oz. jig head ( any kind)
The whiter the better.
On Kipawa, I would use the 4" swammer since the trout are much smaller.

So the swammer is a rubber bodied bait used on a jig head?